**The following is taken from a post that I made to a group of folks in a Gorean style M/s board.  The original topic had to do with a girl's Master commanding that she gain a large amount of weight.  My response touched on the issues of where a slave can and should draw the line.

How far would you go?

One day on a M/s lifestyle message board, bessieslave brought a good point about getting to know the man you beg the collar of. Do not rush but wait, she said (echoing my own beliefs).

I have often said that you must communicate and learn as much as you can before you entrust your life to another person in such a profound way as slavehood. The reason you do this is simple. Once you wear that collar, the bottom line is that when he commands you, you have two choices. You obey, or you leave. In some communities, it is worded as this: You obey or you fail.

I have heard several variations on the same issue. Just how far would you go to obey the man who owns you?

While I was getting to know my Master, he was completely certain that he had no desire to own another slave. Even after I begged his collar and it was in place, for two years he maintained the same stance. Well - people change. As time progressed he began to show interest in a second girl. I was a bit unnerved and even insecure about it. How could he feel this way when he said for so long that it didn't interest him? Again.. people change.

I had two choices. I could either (because I am his slave) accept his desires and overcome my fears so that he will be a more fulfilled man or I could say.. "I just can't take it" and ask him to remove the collar. Remember, as long as I wear that collar, I have given up the right to have the final say on ANY decision.

So, we talked a great deal - every day for months. (I am a lucky girl in that Master and I communicate very well and he enjoys hearing what I have to say as long as it is presented in a manner befitting my station.) I most certainly didn't jump right off the bat and say "No, you can't have another girl.. or No, I can't handle it." Because of exactly who I am, I acquiesced as it should be. During these months of communication, I have learned that my fears are unfounded and that my owner would never do anything to cause me harm. He is Master, I am slave. If he wishes to have 25 slaves, then I will serve happily beside each and every one.

I realize that a second slave is an entirely different thing from demanding actions or behaviors that are detrimental to one's physical health, however, it is an example of how people do and will change over time. Do not expect your Master to remain exactly the same with the same needs over time. These will change and as a slave we must adapt or wind up without a collar. The Master may, if it pleases him, compromise but it is never a given nor should it ever be expected.

On to the harmful behaviors, etc.

If you were standing on the top of a 10 story building and all of a sudden, your Master said to you, "Jump, NOW girl."

What would you do?

Up until this moment, you have believed your owner to be completely sane, trustworthy and loving.

Scenario #1: You refuse to jump because you believe in doing so, you will wind up dead. You think that perhaps he has suddenly become a few beans shy of a burrito.

BANG BANG BANG. You refused and some guy had snuck up behind you with a .44 and put a few holes into you. You were not aware that your owner had seen a ledge beneath that would have easily caught you with perhaps only a broken bone or two. You were not aware that he WAS looking out for your best interest and because you could not trust him THAT much, you wind up pushing up daisies.

Scenario #2: You jump because you believe that NEVER would he harm you. You do it because you trust this man with your very life.

SPLAT! You're dead. See - neither you or your owner knew it but he had some strange tumor that pressed on his brain and affected his ability to reason or have good judgment. This was his first "episode" and as a result, you are now far thinner than you were before you jumped.

Sometimes there is no correct answer. Slavery is one amazingly difficult path to tread. We trust our very lives into the hands of our owners, however, how far does that trust go?

If my owner told me to gain 50 pounds, I would probably beg to ask why he wished this. I would probably beg to talk about it. If he insisted for whatever reason, I would have two choices. Obey or wind up without a collar and an owner. My choice to obey or not at that time would depend on the outcome of the communication if it indeed took place.

If I were to say "No, I won't" with regard to any command he gave me, I would most definitely wind up with a naked neck or after getting my ass beat, I would wind up obeying anyway.

Now if I told him "no" and he said.. "ok... have it your way." then wouldn't that relationship cease to be one of Master and slave? If the girl can say... "Nope, not gonna obey." and he says.. "Okey dokey.. if that's what you want, honey."

See, as slaves, we can say "no." Our vocal chords and mouths are perfectly capable of doing this, however, the result of such an action will most certainly define our relationship. We will find one of two things. Either we were (before our collar was removed) or are (after we wind up obeying anyway with a bruised ass) in a Master slave relationship or (if he acquiesces to our saying "no") we remain in a relationship that isn't what the package says.

I have spoken to some girls who are collared under three conditions. Their owner has said to them (before they donned the collar) "Rule #1 is that you NEVER do permanent harm to yourself. Rule #2 is that you never do harm to another unless it is to uphold rule #1. Rule # 3 is that no one, not even myself, is ever permitted to revoke these conditions.

In this way, the girl has a safety net. She can, in complete obedience, refuse to do any permanent harm to herself or another person. I, myself, find this to be an excellent idea for some relationships. In my own, although Master has not specifically worded it this way, I have been assured that if he lost his marbles and commanded me to swallow a .357 cartridge at high speed and velocity, that I would indeed be permitted disobedience at that point.

Where do we draw that line though? If we are owned by a person who is supposed to be looking out for our best interest, when do we step in and take over for them? When is it ok to step out of bounds and take the reins for our own personal safety.

My opinion on this is that it will vary with each situation and with each relationship. No two people are alike therefore no two relationships, situations, etc. can be either.

We must, as slaves, go through each day using our best judgment while maintaining the integrity of our servitude and surrender.

Are ya'll wondering if I would have jumped? To be honest, I don't really know. I know that at this point in my life, I trust the man who owns me more than I ever thought possible. I believe that there is no decision he could make that would bring me any permanent physical or emotional harm.

But - On the same note, I have a keen and enormous sense of self preservation. I have two young boys who need their mother.

So- I don't know what I would have done. I suppose hypothetical questions are sometimes the most difficult because we are asked to answer things that we are not, at that time, experiencing.

I guess I didn't offer the question to get answers, but rather to show that sometimes, we have to just trust them, have faith in their judgment and jump. And sometimes, we have to allow our own judgment to enter into the picture and perhaps beg for communication or even beg for release for our own good and safety. When and how we do these things is up to us and hopefully, we will never have to know.